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Did Jesus ever address homosexuality?

If you are behind on our series on homosexuality you can read the back articles here, here, here, here, here, here,  and here.

In my last post, someone in the Comments asked, “If Jesus is the greatest prophet and Son of God, and if homosexuality was such a bar to eternal life, why didn’t Jesus address this?” I’ve heard this argument on numerous occasions and want to answer it.

First, Jesus addressed the homosexuality issue when he brought the standards of marriage and sexuality back to the Creation (Matthew 19:4, 5).  At creation, Jesus claimed that God made “male and female,”  and  because of this creation of human kind, “a man will leave his father and mother and cling to his wife.”   By limiting the marriage relationship to men and women, Jesus is speaking against homosexual practice (and much of our common divorce and remarriage practices as well).

Second, the Greek word Jesus uses in Matthew 19:9 condemns homosexual practice.  The word is porneia. The word refers to any “unlawful sexual intercourse.”  This would include homosexuality.  Thus, Jesus does deal with the issue of homosexuality by his usage of this word.  He also condemns incest and bestiality.   (By the way, if we use the logic found in our introductory question we would have to say these two are okay as well).

Third, it really doesn’t matter if the condemnation of homosexuality is in the red letter part of your Bible (red letters normally show quotations from Jesus).  There are many things Jesus does not condemn directly.  This does not mean they are acceptable.  Instead, it simply means Jesus did not have the opportunity or the reason to speak on those subjects, or the writers of the Gospels, under the inspiration of the Spirit, determined to not include them in their gospels (see John 21:25).

Finally, those who claim only Paul condemned the practice, not Jesus, fail to see the work of the Spirit in the writings of Paul.  Paul wrote by inspiration of the Spirit.  The Holy Spirit was sent to the apostles by Jesus to “remind them of what they had heard” and to “lead them into all truth.”  The Spirit continued the revelation of Jesus.  Thus, what the apostles wrote are the words of Jesus.  Therefore if any New Testament writing condemns homosexuality, then it is safe to say that Jesus condemned the practice.

If we believe that the Scriptures are all the words of God, then we will not continue the practice of pitting Jesus against later New Testament writers.  All of the New Testament, not just the red parts, reveals to us the teachings of Jesus.  Those who want to live under His Lordship will submit to all of it.  Therefore, Jesus deals with the homosexuality issue, and states it is sin.

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37 Comments

  1. Right on brother! Well answered!

  2. Why have a “series” on homosexuality? Why is this lifestyle bothering you so much? Seriously. Do you really feel the need to condemn an entire population of the world? How loving of you, Wes. Being judgmental and condemning others, what a Christ-like way to be. You’re pathetic. I can judge you because I’m not claiming to be the scholar of a fictional character.

  3. @Save me: Nowhere does this blog personally “condemn an entire population of the world”. People have legitimate questions on what the Bible teaches on many issues of life. Some of those issues are very personal. Sharing what the Bible says about any given issue is not a personal attack. Remember: Scripture teaches that ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Nobody is ever going to be “good enough” to save themselves, by God’s standard. By choosing to focus on the question of sexuality, you completely ignore the bigger question: If I get hit by a bus and die today, will I go to heaven? That question applies whether you are straight, gay, or a virgin. The Bible has clear answers to that question and it is important to read what it says.

  4. Truly an exasperating, volatile, and divisory subject in these days of our world culture/community. Does this subject seem to be over-wrought? Yes, to some degree. I will come back to that in a little bit. I am very curious as to the last sentence of “save me’s” comment. What ‘fictional’ character are you referring to? Jesus? Paul? The other writers of the New or Old Testaments? Both Paul, the apostle and Jesus Christ are recorded in various historical records. Were you referring to God? I am puzzled quite frankly ‘Save me’.
    Now returning to my earlier reference to an over-wrought issue (homosexuality) I can very well see why some, to maybe many, may be tired of hearing about this issue. The airwaves, pulpits, political podiums, courtrooms, and even homes seem to be ‘flooded’ by this issue. Yet, whom does the gavel of blame fall for this situation? The church? The media? The government? The court system? The Bible? God? The homosexual/lesbian community? Special interest groups? The ACLU? The founding Fathers of America? The law of physics I believe can provide some insight here. In a base version of Newton’s second law for static movement to change one has to have at least an equal or greater force/magnitude than the static object. The static ‘object’ here for this discussion would be the issue of ‘homosexuality/lesbianism. To ‘move’ or ‘push’ this issue from the societal/moral ‘set-point’ it has been since the beginning of time (creation) the homosexual community has driven hard and fast to push this issue out of existence and establish little to no sexual taboos or ‘rules’. So it is fairly uncomprehensible for the normal person to be surprised that the ‘forces’ set to maintain this static object (homosexuality as sin) would not react and react in the same or greater magnitude to keep it where it has been for eons and culturally for centuries and milleniums. In other words, the longer, louder, and harder the homosexual community and its sympathizers push against this age-old issue it inevitably will be met with the same or greater force to stand against ‘normalizing’ (declaring it lawful or morally right). In “Save Me’s” defense I can see where he/she is coming from to a certain degree. The attitude of many of those that take a stand against normalizing homosexual behavior is pretty poor at best at times. At different junctures, I as a Christian, find myself, as well as others, focusing anger/distain more so towards the homosexual/lesbian individual than upon what should receive revilements. Attitudes are everything in many ways. These negative attitudes do not just preside with those of the Christian/religious communities. There are many that disdain the homosexual lifestyle ‘choice’ that have little to no ties to any church body or belief in God or The Bible. So it is just not a ‘religious’ issue to say the very least! Yes, some to many times those in condemnation of the homosexual lifestyle get caught up in placing more focus upon the sin of it (homosexuality) than upon the condemnable sins of lying, cheating, seffishness, adultery, murder (which includes abortion), extortion, abuse, etc. I have heard various arguments from the pro-homosexual community that purport which Jesus did not ‘condemn’ homosexual practices. I will aver, as did Wesley in his article, that Jesus did not specifically address this issue. Maybe, it was because the issue never came up? Maybe He never felt like it needed to be since His Father (God) fully addressed it with Moses on Sinai. Even though He did not ‘specifically’ address this sin/issue He did give full credence, support, and validity to what His Father had already said in the powerful passage during His Beatitudinal discourse in Matthew 5. It is found in verse 17. “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy, but fulfill.” In other words, ‘I verify what has been said of old to be true, right, lasting, and unchangeable’! What He did go on to say was His ‘purpose’ can be found in John 12:46-50 and Luke 19:10. As I was referring earlier about those of the homosexual community using Jesus ‘silence’ as advocacy/acceptance of homosexual behavior they also use the passage in John 8 as verification of His acceptance of homosexual behavior/lifestyle choice. In His last response to the woman ‘caught’ in adultery those of this argument make use of this statement, “…neither do I condemn you.” Yet, they go seemingly with ‘deft silence’ on His complete statement which finishes resoundingly, “…go and sin no more”. Yes, ‘Save Me’ is right in subtly stating that it is not our job to condemn the sinner…but, it is our command and responsibility to present the ‘Word’ which is TRUTH whose source Was, Is, and Always Will Be…God. God and His righteous Law will has and will continue to do that!!! To finish this off The Spirit has prompted me to share this passage with any/all that may read these words…Jeremiah 3:12, 13 & Hosea 6:1-3. Shalom.

  5. Paul, the apostles, the authors of the gospels and Jesus himself are all totally unknown to secular history. The scant “evidence” dredged up by apologists has all been shown to be fanciful exagerations or outright forgeries.
    Like the religious objections to segregation, interracial marriage and women’s rights, “this too shall pass!”

  6. “Save me”, please understand the difference between disagreeing with something because it is against the will of GOD and being judgemental. Wes is only quoting scripture and deciding what he feels Jesus would say is a sin. This in the end will benefit anyone who is homosexual who wants to repent of their sin. I don’t agree with homosexuality. I do however know some individuals who chose to support this lifestyle and who live the lifestyle. This doesn’t mean that I won’t talk to them. It doesn’t mean I don’t love them. I do love them, I just happen to disagree with something they are doing that I believe offends GOD. Nobody is perfect. We can only strive to be the best people we can be, so when we meet our maker, we hope he is proud of the decisions we have made and the lives we have changed throughout our lives.

  7. Arjun: Where have you been? Jesus is the most documented individual in history. All the hisorical accounts of his area and time period document where he lived, that he did miracles, that he died on the cross, that his tomb was empty, and that hundreds of people claimed to see him within 40 days afterwards. The Gospels were all written by eyewitnesses themselves. 70 other nonbiblical gospels have been written. THe non-Christian famous historian Josephus documents Jesus. The Mishnah teaches Jews that Jesus was fathered by Mary and a Roman criminal and tries to explain away the empty tomb by his disciples stealing the body. Atheists have written books trying to explain away his appearances as hallucinations… Many attempts have been made to explain or understand Jesus, but no one credible has even been able to claim that he doesn’t exist, or that he didn’t do miracles, or that he died, or that his tomb was empty. Many biblical characters are likewise confirmed. We know where the disciples lived and died. The tomb of Lazarus, Mary and Martha has been found along with other Christian Jews from Bethany with both Jewish and christian symbols.

    Even Old Testament characters are documented in secular history such as David, Moses, and Abraham. Nearly all, if not all, ancient cultures document the flood and the seven people who lived through it in the ark. Many of the European royalty from various countries document their ancestry back to Japeth from the ark years before these countries were Christianized.

    There are many, many proofs of the Bible. The only reasons to doubt the Bible’s validity on anything is ignorance of the evidence, or human rebellion of not wanting to believe.

    Unfortunately, many, many people have tried to suppress biblical evidence, and many lies abound. But the truth is there for any who want to and can find it.

  8. OLD TESTAMENT:

    ” Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind.”

    ” If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”

    NEW TESTAMENT:

    ” Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of GOD ? Be not deceived : neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate (men), nor abusers of themselves with mankind (sodomites),”

    ” And: such WERE SOME OF YOU: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the Name of the LORD JESUS, and by the Spirit of our GOD.”

    ” For I AM the LORD, and I change not,…..”

    ” In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was with GOD, and the WORD was GOD.”

    ” JESUS, the same yesterday, today and for ever..”

    “Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the LORD, and touch not the unclean thing, and I will receive you,”

    ” Having therefor these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from ALL filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of GOD.”

    ” Enter in at the strait gate; for wide is the gat, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:”

    ” Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto eternal life, AND FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT.”

    ” Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.”

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    ” There is a path which no fowl knoweth, and which the vulture’s eye hath not seen”

    ” And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall NOT err therein.”

    ” No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall NOT be found there; but the REDEEMED shall walk there:’

    ACTS 2: 38

    GOD SAVES US FROM OUR SINS, NOT IN THEM !

  9. Nice work, Wes. I have often said that I think EVERY letter of red-letter bibles ought be red.

    Lord bless you.

  10. Candace Jennings

    December 8, 2011 at 6:21 am

    To me, using the Bible as a weapon against others whom we feel are living in sin is going against everything that Jesus taught. He taught us to love our neighbor as ourselves, to judge not, to pick out the log in our own eye before we condemn our brother for his speck, etc. There is no gradation of sin. Sin is sin. Judging your homosexual neighbor is just as sinful as murdering someone. And using scripture to point out another’s sin is not only NOT spirit led (but rather is ego-led because it is justifying ourselves by saying that WE are the only ones who have it right) but it is not the way of Christ, who loved everyone regardless of whom they slept with or how the religious people of his day regarded them. This life is only temporal. Do you really believe that the God of the universe is concerned with who your neighbor sleeps with when there are so much greater concerns all around us? The only people who should be having a discussion about whether homosexuality is a sin are homosexuals. It, frankly, is none of our business if it is not our sin. It is not our job to point out the sins of others. It is our job to love them and to focus on ourselves by trying to perfect our own walk. I am afraid that a lot of Christians are going to be shocked when they get to heaven and find a lot of people who were homosexual in this physical life there, and a whole other bunch of people who profess Christ standing outside the pearly gates. Jesus taught love compassion and kindness. We would do well to heed his example, and not the example of the Pharisees who were so caught up in being and teaching purity that they missed out on the whole purpose of our existence here.

  11. To tell someone they are committing a sin is not judging them. That is the worse concept that Christians are supposed to love everyone and make nice. No! Christ is the great unifier but also the great divider. Either you believe in Him as your salvation or you do not. It the Biblr teaches it is a sin then we dont get to change. The concept of not judging is to be just in doing so. The Pharisees were not acting justly when they brought the adulteress woman to Jesus because they conveniently left out the man, takes two to tango. The Pharisees were attempting to make Christ judge the woman in their acts of sin, thus they were not fairly judging her.
    We all sin and need to be directly by our fellow Christians to become more like Christ. So if I tell you that you are sinning by cheating on your wife, I am not judging I merely telling you that your acts are wrong according to God’s word.

  12. Well, “I” am a 51-yr. old “homosexual” who is at a point in my life where my salvation and where I will spend Eternity is more important than people judging me for my perceived sin, would someone assist/help me in my growing faith by providing a straight answer? Also, I have not had sex in 7 yrs., due to my new found walk in faith, so if sex with someone of the same gender is the “actual sin”, and I am nolonger doing that, can I/will be forgiven by my Lord and Saviour?

  13. Milton.
    Other people judging you is not your concern, for they will be judged “by the same measure”, and one day they alone will have to stand before Jesus and account for their life.
    You speak of your “new-found walk in faith”, if your faith is in Jesus Christ, and if you have acknowledged your belief in Him,and asked Him to forgive you for your sins,then ALL of your sins have been forgiven.From that point on, all that matters is that you do your best to live a life that pleases Him, ‘work your salvation with fear & trembling’,and share with others the love & grace that He has shared with you. Then the ‘blessed assurance’ of eternal life with Him is assured.
    God Bless you.

  14. Praise God for you Milton,

    I am an ex lier, ex murder, ex thief and I could go on. God has forgiven me of all my sins because I have accepted Christ as my Lord and saviour. I am walking in His newness of life. I said His newness because I now have the Holy Spirit that lives in me to teach me and lead me into all truth according to the bible. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. I would encourage you to spend more time the word of God.
    Also know we have to keep our minds on Jesus because we do have an adversary that want us to fall back in to sin. That is why we have to renew our minds daily in the word and prayer.

    God bless you and I am praying God will continue to do an awesome work in your heart for the world to see and hear.

  15. Milton: In one simple word I can answer your question. Yes. Sin is sin. If you have repented, and changed your heart and are following a path that leads you to the Lord rather than away from him that is all the Lord wants. He does not expect you to be perfect however I believe he does expect you to want to be. Don’t beat yourself up over this. This is your trial. Everyone has their trials. Some are harder than others. Sin is sin no matter what sin it may be. I think a lot of people want to judge some as worse than others but if they are forgivable I don’t truly believe Heavenly Father see’s a difference in them. I know that He Lives! I know that He loves you very much. Pray his spirit to always be with you and when you are feeling low he will be there for you. God bless you!

  16. Why do we spend so much time spiting hairs so that we may condemn our fellow man of sin? Are we not told clearly not to judge?

    No matter how you wish to argue the point Jesus’s word is clear..

    “Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh.”
    No reason to believe this would exude those who are man on the outside and woman on the inside. Those who are born differently of the mother’s womb.

    further your analysis totally skips Mathew 19:10

    “For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb..” “He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.”

  17. Living life as a “homosexual” Christian is hard. I should know. I come from a conservative, loving family who has always been attentive, caring and protective. I grew up in the Church and always received the message I’d hear every Sunday. I have always had a personal relationship with Jesus, ever since I can remember. The way I was raised, and the environment I grew up in, you would think I’d be “normal”. When I developed my first crush in the 6th grade on a fellow classmate-a girl-I was more than concerned. I was devastated. I couldn’t understand why I felt these “butterflies” for her, but could not for any boys I knew. As I aged, my feelings didn’t go away…in fact they became more and more prevalent…even though I fought hard for the idea that it was “just a phase”.

    I tried dating several guys during my college years, but always found an excuse as to why they were no good for me. As hard as I tried to feel attraction and prove myself wrong, they always remained in the “friend-zone”. I wasn’t sexual, so I never considered myself to have a “disease” as some people would claim it to be. I’ve never considered myself to be “perverted” as it’s defined. Still at age 26 I’ve never had sex-with a man or a woman. It’s not very often that I even think about sex. I’m drawn to women. I feel at ease with them, more emotionally connected and have a seemingly innate physical attraction towards them that I don’t have towards men. I prayed to God countless times, begging and even sobbing to please change the way I feel because I know He has the power to do so and if it’s a sin, I wanted it gone, away from me. In my mind, I kept thinking “ask Him and you shall receive”. Still nothing. Years and years passed. I felt bitter and angry and wondered “why me? why can everyone around me live a life full of accepted love, commitment and romance and I cannot?” I locked myself in my room most days and would refrain from making friends because I was fearful they would wonder why I never had a boyfriend, or try to play matchmaker. My relationship with my family became strained because I didn’t have the heart, or guts, to tell them that to my dismay, I’m a lesbian. I couldn’t stand for them to wonder if it was something they did wrong, or look at me like I’m a freak of nature. It’s hard to lie and hide from your parents, even more so when it’s not self-inflicted. I can’t control the feelings I have. Many times I’ve asked God why I was even brought into this world if this was to be the kind of life I’m supposed to live. I’ve struggled to believe that I am not a mistake…because God doesn’t make mistakes, and I’m the way I am for a reason.

    Still to this day, I can’t understand why it would seem more acceptable in God’s eyes for me to remain in this lonely, isolated, and hopeless state than be in a loving, committed and happy relationship with a person of the same sex, with God very present in my relationship of course. I certainly didn’t choose to be attracted to girls. I wish a million times a day that I weren’t. The only thing that eases my mind are the people who are going through the same experience as I have, and the hope that maybe, just maybe, God has changed his mind sometime between then and now.

  18. Casey: I can’t imagine how you must feel…I have family members who are gay and they too say since they can remember that’s the way things have been…we may all never understand why these things happen..but what I do know is that all the trials in the world that we struggle with are the result of our fallen world…knowing that God never created the world like this is comforting to me when I ask why things are a certain way…I believe that all things God does is good (even if they seem bad at the time)…so he is able to take difficult situations and turn them in to great things…I will pray for you…but know you are never alone…God is always with you…and our fulfillment comes from Him…even though we tend to want to find fulfillment from this world (this goes for everyone)…we all struggle with different sins…they’re all hard to overcome…but Jesus has overcome the world…so we can proclaim victory in Him even before we see it.

  19. God bless you Milton. It is so refreshing to see such honesty, when many will change the word of God to say what they want it to. That is the easy and dishonest way to go that leads to condemnation.
    We are all sinners, and what is needed is repentance and the intention to refrain from sinning. That is, to turn in our heart from sin. The Lord then forgives us.
    It does not matter what others say or think, but only to be right before God.
    Keep moving forward and praying. God bless.

  20. This article does not answer the question in the title at all. The quotes he gives that Jesus said in regards to homosexuality, don’t directly answer the question. So, what does the author do? He draws a line from the quote, and saying he’s referencing homosexuality. It’s really quite fascinating reading this author’s amount of speculation. Then to cover this speculation, he says even if Jesus didn’t talk about gays directly, it’s still bad… they just didn’t have the time or deem it important. *Jaw drops* That wouldn’t even pass as a decent written argument in a high school English class, let alone the real world.

  21. For all time some adolescent humans have realized that they have no attraction to the opposite gender. A lot of the comments above could and do lead them to suicide. Of course Yeshua did not see them as immoral.

  22. AMEN!!! I have heard someone try to twist the word and say that Jesus addresses homosexuality in Matthew 19:12. Their version (I want to know what it is so I stay away from it) is speaking about men being born homosexual, where the word eunuch is. LOL

    GOOD POST!

    If you want to hear it:

  23. Jesus directed us to love on another as He has loved us. We were also directed to judge not, lest we be judged. Passing judgement on others is not a loving act and clearly goes against what has been asked of us. To be a Christian is to live our life following the example set by Jesus. Truly reaching out to others in an honest, loving way is far more effective in leading people to know Jesus and God’s Word than sitting in judgement and condemnation of others. We are all sinners and every sin is equally wrong. None is worse than another is God’s eyes. He did not direct us to have a superior attitude and get into the face of those we feel are sinning. He said to LOVE THEM AS HE HAS LOVED US. No reservations. No condemnation. Just accepting every other person as they are, wherever they are in their life. God will pass judgement, not us. Seeing the love and caring offered by Christians and the peace and joy in their lives from serving God, draws people to want to know the who, what and why of your life. There is your opportunity to share Jesus. Sitting in judgement/condemnation is not a Christian act and sets and example of Christians being hateful.

  24. Jesus directed us to love on another as He has loved us. We were also directed to judge not, lest we be judged. Passing judgement on others is not a loving act and clearly goes against what has been asked of us. To be a Christian is to live our life following the example set by Jesus. Truly reaching out to others in an honest, loving way is far more effective in leading people to know Jesus and God’s Word than sitting in judgement and condemnation of others. We are all sinners and every sin is equally wrong. None is worse than another in God’s eyes. He did not direct us to have a superior attitude and get into the face of those we feel are sinning. He said to LOVE THEM AS HE HAS LOVED US. No reservations. No condemnation. Just accepting every other person as they are, wherever they are in their life. God will pass judgement, not us. Seeing the love and caring offered by Christians and the peace and joy in their lives from serving God, draws people to want to know the who, what and why of your life. There is your opportunity to share Jesus. Sitting in judgement/condemnation is not a Christian act and sets an example of Christians being hateful. When our actions cause someone to turn from God or to feel isolated from Him, we are setting ourselves up to be denied by Him and eternal life in His presence. Love one another, please. Just honestly reach out and care about those around you. None of us is better than, or more right in our actions, than anyone else.

  25. Wesley

    March 24, 2013 at 9:03 pm

    Bill- I’m sorry you are unable to follow the argument.

    Deb- Thank you for your comment. You will no argument from me that we are to love people. And that those whom we love are dealing with a myriad of sins. And we all sin in a variety of ways. Each of these sins are an affront to God’s holiness.

    The point of this post is to establish that the practice is sins, in hopes, that those participating will seek to repent (another popular word used by Jesus) and seek holiness.

  26. I present that the WORDS of Yeshua are sacred and anything other than the words of YHWH and Yeshua are blasphamies. The words of men will never supercede the decrees of YHWH nor the lessons of Yeshua.

    I also state that HOMOSEXUALITY, the acts thereof, is an abomination to the Lord, yet we, as children of Light should understand that FORGIVENESS is of the utmost and that to condem anyone for who they are is a SIN (Judge not least ye be judged yourself!).

    Stop trying to play the GOOD Christian and admit you are wrong 100% and that YES the Most High will firgive those that seek him and Yeshua will offer salvation to those who seek him.

    Stop judgeing others as you have not been ordained by the Lord to do so. In fact, we are explicitly told NOT TO.

    God Bless the True Believers
    Yeshua is Saviour
    YHWH is Lord

  27. I’d argue that just condemns homosexual intercourse, since the word is for unlawful sexual intercourse. Everyone is born a sinner. Some people, I truly believe, may be born gay. I know several gay Christians that don’t want to be, and they have to choose everyday to take up their cross and follow Christ, not the passions of the flesh.

  28. Wesley

    March 31, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    Charles I believe you are making a distinction between someone who practices homosexuality and someone who has same sex attraction. I agree with that distinction. It is the act that is called a sin in Scripture.

  29. thanks 4 the study on homosexuality from Biblical’ teaching point-o-view; its was right on time 4 me, Sir .

  30. San Sebastion

    May 5, 2013 at 9:51 pm

    The central thesis of Christianity is charity. Love yourself, love your neighbor and show your love for God by trying to do the right thing. Doing the right thing is being charitable. Acts of charity are “Christ-like” Acts of selfishness are unchristian. Leading a Christian life is that simple. If homosexual acts are acts of charity that’s Christian, if homosexual acts are acts of selfishness that’s sinful, but only the individual can answer whether they’re being selfish or charitable. As for the rest of you, butt out.

  31. Phillip Martin

    June 12, 2013 at 2:37 pm

    OK…. Wow, I can’t believe that so many people got so close to the subject of whether homosexuality is a sin or isn’t a sin, that they all missed a few very important (most) teaching of Jesus. First of all, I am a heterosexual male for those that are wondering. I am not saying that homosexuality is a sin, it is not my place nor anyone else’s place on this planet to determine that. Each of us, if we are truely Christian, have a personal relationship with Christ. What Christ and the Holy Spirit places on my heart is real, regardless of what anyone else says. With that being said, let’s just say that homosexuality is a sin. Christ said that all sin is the same, sin. No sin is greater than another. Also, Christ died for us to forgive us our sins. Does that make us non sinners, no, we are still sinners no matter what that sin is. We will always be sinners and will always battle our sins. So by condemning anyone or any sin, you condemn yourself by Christ’s own sacrifice. I can go on and on, but come on people, love your neighbors! What would Jesus do?

  32. Wesley

    June 12, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    Jesus did die to forgive us of our sin, but he also calls us to repent and leave those sins behind.

    Loving your neighbor does not mean accepting as righteous something that is declared as sinful.

  33. I agree, I believe we all agree, homosexuality is a sin. Just as we all sin. And God looks at all sin as the same. My problem with homosexuality is with the extreme’s that gays will go to in order to force their way of life on others, Parades, teaching young school children, almost making it cool to be gay. To me, that is like me forcing all my sins on others and claiming it is ok, even acceptable to do them.

  34. I don’t understand why Christians are so bothered by homosexuality which harms no one. Why not expend your energies on paedophilia, incest, rape, domestic abuse, substance abuse or other social ills that actually harm society and leave homosexuals alone?

    Homosexuality is not a ‘sin’ no more than left-handedness is a sin. (The catholics thought it was for centuries and tried to beat it out of children…another example of religious nuttery)

  35. Ok lets say it this way folks..I am an adulter even though I’ve repented and am forgiven. But don’t forget. Jesus said even if you look at them with sin in your heart you have committed it..so judge yourself first as to your sin remembering He forgave you son should you forgive. This love is the greatest that you lay your life down for another..don’t get wrong I would want my neighbor to tell me I would die from cancer but Jesus is the life saving doctor..

  36. Sarah Jenkins

    June 17, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    As it turns out, yes, He did. As a matter of fact, He spoke very clearly and directly about the issue. Let me begin with Matthew 19:4. Here Jesus is answering a question from the Pharisees regarding divorce. However, his answer is very telling concerning the entire issue of sexuality, the purpose of sexuality, marriage and the proper form of marriage. Here are the words of Jesus:

    “And He answered and said to them, ‘Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning “made them male and female,” and said, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh”?’” (Matthew 19:4)

    Here Jesus upholds creation, male and female sexual relationships (in marriage), male and female marriage, procreation as a part of male and female marriage, and the sanctity of male and female marriage and sexual relationships. His answer is a blanket ignoring (thus condemnation as perversion) of anything outside God’s standard for sexuality and marriage. This truth cannot be legitimately explained away.

    But, Jesus gets even more direct concerning the issue of homosexuality. In John 5:46-47, Jesus tells his detractors that unless one holds to the writings of Moses (the first five books of the Bible), one cannot fully know or understand truth or Jesus Himself. “For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?” (John 5:46-47) Of course, in the first five books of the Bible we read of the days of Noah and Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis) and the blanket condemnation of homosexuality as perversion (Leviticus). Oh well, so much for throwing out the Old Testament to legitimize homosexuality. But wait – Jesus gets even more direct with the matter.

    Jesus also spoke of the destruction of the Sodomite (openly celebrating homosexuality) cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. (Luke 17:28-32; Matthew 10:15; 11:24; Mark 6:11.) The presenting sin that brought about the destruction of those cultures was homosexuality. Consider these words found in the book of Jude:

    “Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.” (Jude 1:7-8)

    Three of the four gospels contain quotes from Jesus about the sinful condition of Sodom and Gomorrah and the destruction that the celebration of the presenting sin of homosexuality wrought upon them. One of those quotes equates the sins of Sodom (homosexuality) to the same type of pervasive perversion of Noah’s day (Luke 17:26-30). So, as it turns out … YES, Jesus did speak rather forthrightly, and often, about the sin of homosexuality and the judgment that it brings upon societies that celebrate it.

    But, most important to the issue is the matter of the person of Jesus. Who is He? Well, He claimed to be God with us. The Scriptures claim that He is God with us (Matthew 1:24). Even his enemies knew that Jesus was making this claim (John 10:33). So, if Jesus is “God with us,” then we have to ask, “Does God condemn homosexuality?” The answer is obvious. From Genesis to Revelation, God’s Word, homosexuality is condemned as perversion and a certain sign that God’s judgment is on the way to the culture that openly celebrates it as “normal.”

    Now for the good news. Once we understand the correct and contextual biblical position in this matter, we also discover that homosexuality is not the unforgivable sin. There is hope, healing, forgiveness and salvation for anyone caught in the grips of any sinful lifestyle. Jesus extends his love and forgiveness to anyone, the Bible says, if one would repent (turn from) their sin and call upon Jesus Christ as Lord. Just like the woman caught in the act of adultery, you can hear Jesus say, “Neither do I condemn you, go and sin no more.”

  37. There are many misreadings, misinterpretations, and failed understandings in the comment sections of this post.

    First, the words “porneia” (Greek) and “fornication” (English) do not mean sexual immorality. Porneia and fornication mean prostitution. The rules against homosexual behaviors are related to ancient rituals of idolatry and temple prostitution, not loving relationships between same gender partners. Humans have changed these words from their original Biblical meanings.

    Second, according to Ezekiel 16, Sodom’s sin was not homosexuality, it was that the city was prosperous but still oppressed the poor and needy. It was Sodom’s greed with money, not sexual transgressions, that stirred God’s anger.

    Charging interest on a loan is an abomination to the Lord. In addition, Jesus commands his disciples to pray “forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors” in Matthew (the word Matthew uses is “olipheo” – a banking term, not a moral term). Using a credit card, taking a mortgage on a house, getting a car loan, taking out student loans, and demanding rent are on the same level as bestiality and raping children.

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